Effectiveness of Power Types
When hunting with a certain type of trap, hunters will often get the message “My trap was very effective” or “My trap was less effective”, while useful to know, it doesn’t tell us anything about what the bonus or penalty is so we can make an informed decision about whether we should be using that trap or a different one.
After comparing the mouse difficulties, I believe these are the modifiers, the mice have been classified into groups, see the bottom of this post for which mice are in which group:
| Mouse Type (Group) | Trap Type | ||||||
| Physical | Shadow | Tactical | Arcane | Hydro | Forgotten | Draconic | |
| Physical | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Physical (Tribal Easy) | 100% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Physical (Tribal Hard) | 100% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% |
| Physical (Dracano) | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 0% | 100% |
| Shadow | 25% | 200% | 25% | 100% | 0% | 100% | 0% |
| Shadow (Ghost) | 0% | 200% | 25% | 100% | 0% | 100% | 0% |
| Shadow (Jungle) | 0% | 200% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% |
| Tactical | 100% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Tactical (Student) | 50% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Tactical (Master) | 25% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Tactical (Furoma Boss) | 0% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 100% | 0% | 0% |
| Tactical (Tribal) | 0% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% |
| Forgotten | 0% | 100% | 0% | 200% | 0% | 100% | 0% |
| Arcane (Acolyte) | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 100% | 0% |
| Arcane (Dragon) | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 200% |
| Hydro | 100% | 0% | 75% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 0% |
| Hydro (Tribal) | 0% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 175% | 0% | 0% |
These values are derived from the difficulties found on the Mice pages.
Please note, these modifiers only affect the power of a trap, not the luck, so it is still possible to catch any mouse on the luck of a trap alone.
Mouse Groups
Physical
Abominable Snow
Bat
Bear
Bionic
Birthday
Black Widow
Brown
Burglar
Chameleon
Cupid
Cyclops
Diamond
Elf
Elven Princess
Frog
Glitchpaw
Gold
Granite
Grey
Hollowhead
Leprechaun
Master Burglar
Mobster
Mole
Monster
Moosker
Mutated Grey
Mutated White
Nibbler
Rockstar
Shaman
Steel
Sylvan
Treant
Troll
White
Wicked Witch of Whisker Woods
Wiggler
Zombie
Physical (Tribal Easy)
Healer
Trailblazer
Wordsmith
Physical (Tribal Hard)
Aged
Derr Chieftain
Gladiator
Grunt
Guardian
Mintaka
Renegade
Seer
Spellbinder
Physical (Dracano)
Draconic Warden
Whelpling
Shadow
Giant Snail
Goblin
Harpy
Lycan
Mummy
Ravenous Zombie
Terror Knight
Vampire
Shadow (Ghost)
Ghost
Shadow (Jungle)
Chitinous
Fetid Swamp
Jurassic
Magma Carrier
Primal
Stonework Warrior
Tactical
Archer
Briegull
Buccaneer
Captain
Caretaker
Centaur
Dwarf
Eagle Owl
Fairy
Foxy
Hapless
Kung Fu
Monk
Narrator
Ninja
Nomad
Pathfinder
Pirate
Samurai
Tiger
Water Nymph
Worker
Tactical (Student)
Student of the Cheese Belt
Student of the Cheese Claw
Student of the Cheese Fang
Tactical (Master)
Master of the Cheese Belt
Master of the Cheese Claw
Master of the Cheese Fang
Tactical (Furoma Boss)
Assassin
Master of the Dojo
Tactical (Tribal)
Alnilam
Beast Tamer
Conjurer
Conqueror
Defender
Finder
Grandfather
Nerg Chieftain
Slayer
Forgotten
Gargoyle
Gate Guardian
Golem
Gorgon
Keeper
Keeper’s Assistant
Lich
Ooze
Reaper
Scavenger
Skeleton
Sorcerer
Spectre
Spider
Wight
Arcane (Acolyte)
Acolyte
Arcane (Dragon)
Dragon
Hydro
Alchemist
Bottled
Cook
Hydra
Leviathan
Mermaid
Pinchy
Salt Water Snapper
Scout
Shelder
Shipwrecked
Siren
Squeaken
Swabbie
Taleweaver
Hydro (Tribal)
Alnitak
Champion
Elder
Elub Chieftain
Mystic
Pack
Protector
Soothsayer
Vanquisher
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I like this chart!
Good example, but, why does a physical trap have 0% effectiveness against Ghost Mice? I usually hunt there with the PartyBot!
Cheers.
Cosmin,
These modifiers only affect the power of the trap, not the luck, which is why you can catch a reasonable number of Ghosts with the PartyBot.
I’ll put something in the article to clarify that.
Thanks
Paul
The mice on the tribal isles seem to overaw all traps that are not of their power types.
An update will be going through shortly.
so then, is it impossible for me to catch a dwarf mouse if my acronym has, for example, 0 luck? just trying to understand the mechanics.
Jeremy, if you were to use something like the OoS and explosive base without a golden shield you should not catch any Dwarf Mice.
hmm… so if i wanna go lagoon to get the hydra with blue prints, i should use my swiss army with explosive? or ambush or dehydration? i have these
Arcane 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Arcane only catches things using luck? Apparently, you must multiply it’s power by 0(%) against anything, giving a result of 0. So no matter what, it’s power is effectively.
I am reallly confused.
Adam, the Best Setup Generator should help you with this.
DST, I believe you’re confusing the Arcane mouse type, with the Arcane trap type.
So which setup should be used when hunting the arcane mice?
Sean, from the best information we have at the moment, if you’re specifically after the Acolyte and don’t mind missing all the other mice there, you should use your luckiest trap, however many prefer to use the ACRoNYM as it’s the best trap for the area and has decent luck.
What formula do you use to calculate the cate rate for a particular mouse? I want to see if I should get the Rhinobot over the Partybot, and also if Tribal Base gives a significant advantage over the Polar base.
I read your article on Luck, and using the Chance of Catch = (Trap Power/(Trap Power + Mouse Power)) + (Luck Power/(Luck Power + Mouse Power)) formula seems to suggest that Partybot/Aqua performs better than Rhinobot/Polar and Rhinobot/Tribal. I am not taking into account attraction bonuses here, just raw Trap Power and Luck power of each trap combination, active Golden Shield and a mouse power of 10,000. Am I doing something wrong here?
Oh ok, I noticed a mistake in the formula I used – I did not take (1-(Trap Power Catch Rate))(Luck Catch Rate)
Hi, I am in a bit of trouble, and hope you can help me out… I have spent 200 RB to try to catch the Lycan Mouse, but I did not, he gets attracted to the trap but so far I have always failed to cath him, on the other hand being in the mousoleum has been a nightmare, my cheese gets stolen allmost 6 out of 7 times, the attraction rate is almost perfect, but I seem to catch only 3 or 4 mice a day, which can hardly compensate the expenses of making RB cheese.
I am planning to leave the Moz and go to GGT, but I need 20 Radioactive Sludge to convert the VMT into the MVMT… so far I only got 4… so I would be very grateful if you could guide me on to…
1. Is there any other posibility for increasing my catch rate in the Moz????, particulary the Lycan???
If not
2. What is the best option to obtain Radioactive Sludge??? (was thinking of a stale trap, in a location where RB is not the best choice).
Thank you, please get back as soon as possible.
Gilvan
http://apps.facebook.com/mousehunt/hunterprofile.php?snuid=529788879
can you please put up the values for the draconic power type i.e. ice maiden trap
OH sorry !! didn’t see it
Sorry, but i think there’s a mistake with the chart. Tactical and hydro traps should not have 100 percent damage against the physical mice in Derr Dunes (Tribal (Easy)).
Never mind i realised my mistake. I had thought the likes of mintaka was tribal easy. Sorry.
Oops i realised its my mistake. Sorry, i thought the likes of Mintaka etc. were in Tribal Easy.
Please compare the Shadow Bottomless Grave with the Arcane ACRoNYM for catching
Non-Jungle Shadow mice. (I do not have the Tribal Base yet). Everyone says ACRoNYM, but Wiki and your charts seem to differ. Thank you for all your hard work.
Was it a mistake to buy the Bottomless Grave?
Great chart but I just want to make sure I’m reading it right. At what point should the modifiers be added? Before or after the base power is included? For example:
Ambush (tactical) has 3000 power + 5% bonus
Chrome DrillBot (physical) has 3900 power + 20% bonus
Gingerbread base has 225 power + 8% bonus
Normally, the game would show total power of 3644 for Amb+GB and 5280 for CDB+GB.
Against a Captain Mouse (tactical), your chart has a modifier of 175% for Ambush and 100% for CDB.
If your modifiers are added at the end this would mean effective powers of 6377 (=3644 x 175%) and 5280.
Or, is it trap power that’s modified, then base added, and finally bonuses? This would give powers of 6187 (=3000 x 175%, then plus 225, then total increased by 13%) and 5280.
Either way, Ambush is substantially more powerful than CDB but pooflinger’s stats still favour the CDB. Am I using your chart wrong or is it all down to the difference in luck?
Thanks.
I’ve yet to get to the Tribal Isles, but when I open the page showing the mice there (by directly entering the URL http://apps.facebook.com/mousehunt/adversaries.php?rid=7 ) with the Sinister Portal equipped, the difficulty values I see don’t quite agree with the above table.
Most of the mice which I haven’t discovered yet say “You have yet to discover a location that this mouse resides in.” and are listed as “near impossible”.
However, Pinchy carries the same message, but has the “overpowering” difficulty, and the dragon is listed as “overawing”.
Seeing as Shadow traps are supposed to be 0% effective vs most of the mice in the Isles, is this just a bug on the part of MH (carrying power type data over from the region I’m in, Burroghs), or does the shadow column of the table above need to be reviewed?